50 New Things for 50 with Trish Walker

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Trish Walker is an author, speaker and intuitive coach. She is committed to helping people LIVE extraordinary lives, push beyond their boundaries and to become vibrant human beings for themselves, their families and their communities.

Trish and Slade talk about breaking free from that comfort zone, getting out into the world and defying age through boundless new experiences. Following Walker's bold decision to do fifty new things in her fiftieth year, her book and this interview serves as a beacon of hope that, for everyone, life is really just beginning.

For those who are having a milestone birthday, an identity crisis ... or both! How to live a life of bold new experiences at any age.

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Trish:

Hi Slade!

I'm working with people that are me, three years ago. And where I was three years ago was trying to find out where I was going in life. I knew there was something more for me out there. So I was blessed to find an energy teacher and business coach that put me on the right track.

If I had to sum it up in one sentence, it would be: intuitive coach, author, speaker and energy mastery practitioner.

Slade:

Mmm!

Okay, so what was it that drew you to that particular skill set, especially the energy work? How did you leap from 'I don't know what to do with myself' to that particular... What was the journey that brought you to that realization?

Trish:

Let me back up a couple of years. I was corporate America. I worked for a medical device company doing clinical trials on heart stents. I was travelling four nights a week. I had more frequent flyer miles than Richard Branson (maybe not him, but...) Just travelling so much.

I adopted my son when I turned 40 and I realized at that point in my life, I didn't want to be away from him for four nights a week.

I quit my full-time job and I took every workshop and every online seminar that I could find, that really resonated with me. I ended up at the Institute for Integrative Nutrition (IIN), which is based out of New York City. What IIN does is really...

It's not just about diet. It's about those pillars in life: financial, career, emotional, spiritual.

So that was kind of the foundation of what I was studying. From there, I just really stepped into finding those teachers, such as yourself, that resonated with me and kind of took my foundation and added onto it.

Along that way, I was doing my blog on the subject that we're going to talk about later - the 50 new things - that turned into a book. That turned into coaching people and speaking about my book. It's been a transition since then.

I also have my Reiki master. While I was practicing with the reiki, I kept hearing that there was something crisper and louder for me and cleaner. And came upon Energy Mastery in that way. It's a modality that, for me, I've seen some huge shifts.

So if you were to come into a session with me, Slade, you would get some energy clearing. And then we would talk about your next right steps. Because if our own energy isn't cleaned up, we can't step forward into what it is that we're supposed to do in a big way.

Slade:

Mmm... Yeah. That's a really good point.

So, you know, since you did work in that sort of corporate, healthcare environment, what was it that made you decide you wanted to take more of an unconventional path than say, I don't know, get an MBA, or become a psychotherapist. What was the impulse there?

Trish:

Well it's funny you should say that.

Because right around when I was at, what I call my 'crossroads', I was thinking about perhaps going for a master's degree in counselling. And - I'm going to share a little family story here - around that time, my dear sister-in-law was going through breast cancer. She had fought cancer for ten years. It ultimately took her life but while she was going through chemo, she was getting energy healing done on her. And it was something that I had never even heard of before.

So while I was talking to Sydney about that on the phone, it really sparked me to go, 'You know what? There might be something different out there for people.' As opposed to the 'take a pharmaceutical pill' or get chemo.

After Syd passed away, I truly feel that she is here with me, kind of cheerleading me to find a different way of doing things. So she really was a big impetus for me to step away from that traditional way of doing things and stepping into a new way of doing things.

Slade:

Mmm... that's so good.

You know what? I kind of have to jump in here because I've encountered a few people recently (we're recording this at the beginning of August 2018). There's a bajillion weird things happening in astrology right now.

Trish:

Yes!

Slade:

There's eclipses, and everything is in retrograde. All this stuff is going on. I was just speaking to you before we started recording about the fact that I'm doing great, but a lot of people around me are really struggling.

Something that you said about needing to get clear before you can move forward.

I have been talking to, not really a client, but somebody kind of in my personal life, who is really stressed about reaching for her path, figuring out her Purpose. She's very stressed that she's not doing enough with her life and all these other things. But she's got a lot of stuff that she just needs to fix in terms of self-care first.

Trish:

Yes!

Slade:

And I am anticipating seeing her in the next couple of days and when you said that, I was thinking, What is a piece of advice that I could give her? What's a way that I could say, 'You know what, you need to...' I don't know! What is it that she needs to do? Does she need to clear? Does she need to ground?

Give me your advice for someone who's spinning out and trying to study all the things and pick something major to do with their life, but they're kind of frazzled. What do you say to just kind of triage them in the moment?

Trish:

The first words that are popping up: Get grounded.

Just stop. Breathe. And get grounded.

What I tell people when they're spinning out of control is, put your left hand on your heart (I'm doing it right now), and just close your eyes and take a few breaths. And, it just centres you.

We try, especially in this society, right? How cool is it to say, 'I'm so busy'. 'I'm so busy!' When I was working in corporate, that was such a badge of honour. Like, ohmygosh, did you see him? He was working 'til 8:00 last night. He must be somebody important.

What I've learned in my own life, Slade, is simple. Simple but powerful. So people look at me like I have three heads when I say, 'Okay, there's simple things you can do, and the first one is, get grounded. Get an energy clearing. I'm a big proponent, you know, of salt baths. Get in a salt bath every day for no more than 15 minutes.

As you clean up your energetic container, those answers are going to come to you. When you're trying to do 10 things at once, what gets done? Nothing. You're spinning out of control. So I always tell people take baby steps.

What I do in my morning is, I'll do a cord cutting, a clearing of myself, and then I sit with my journal and say, What do I need to know today? And I write down three things that come through. Because if I have that list of 20 things, I guarantee I'm going to run off and watch a show on Netflix. But by getting three things down, it usually motivates me to keep on going.

So to answer your question, just get grounded.

If that means, I'm hearing whoever it is I'm hearing, for them to take their shoes off and go stand in the grass and get grounded. To be out in nature.

Slade:

Yeah, I'm, you know, I see this a lot, especially in our community, with the kind of people who probably listen to this show. Who feel like the solution to their complexity is probably something complicated also. It's like they're reaching for some big mystical tool and I always feel like I'm disappointing them a little bit by telling them, there is not a magic guided meditation that you need. You need to take a glamour bath with some candles and turn your phone off for the night.

Trish:

Right! Absolutely.

You know, our society, it's so funny how my pharmaceutical and medical devices background keeps popping up here in my future, but a lot of people want that magic pill. I had a client call the other day where he wanted me to answer all his questions on that one call. And then he was going to be done with it.

And I went, 'I'm sorry, I don't do that. But I will give you tools to figure out the answer for yourself. Because that way you're going to own it more and it's going to be more valuable to you.

But yeah, I'm finding right now, with all of this stuff going on, and it's big stuff that we talked about, I'm either seeing people rise and truly step in and go deep with their healing, or I'm seeing people drop back down to old ways of being, doing and having.

So it's, yeah, just again, stop, breathe, and get grounded.

Slade:

I like the exercise about stopping and putting your hand on your heart. I did it with you in the moment. We both did it. I don't know if anybody listening was doing it with us, but I immediately felt energy drop through my legs.

Trish:

Yes!

Slade:

Like, I was clenching something up near my gut and it, ahhh... it relaxed and dropped into the ground. And that's what it means to ground. I think people think that they got to do some complex visualization of a tree and roots and all that.

And that is a great grounding visualization, but there is something so simple about stopping and taking a breath. And when you hear the word 'breathe', I read this somewhere, you psychologically, it triggers you to take the action. So even thinking about your breath, just even focusing on it...

I wear an Apple watch and it has this Breathe device on it. I got it from my brother so I don't know if he put this on there or if it was just kind of part of the little suite of healthcare things that it does, but it knows when I've started to breathe really, really shallow. And this little blue ball pops up on my wrist and it's like, DING! And it says, 'breathe'.

Trish:

Oh wow!

Slade:

And if you want to, you can open the app and it will walk you through a minute of deep breathing.

But I've noticed, every time I see that, I'm like, Ohmygod, I wasn't breathing! I was breathing really shallow, and it knew. And all I need to be told is, breathe, and it immediately brings me back to my body.

If that means you have to do it several times a day, that's okay, right?

Trish:

Oh, totally. I have one client that I instructed her at least 12 times a day. I want you to just stop and ground.

It's really surprising to me, myself included, in this process is how much we DON'T breathe. Think about that. It's like, you need breath to live but we're not breathing.

Slade:

Yeah. And it's one of those things that supposedly happens unconsciously, subconsciously, autonomically, whatever the word is. So you actually have to have built up some really willful stuff in your subconscious to suppress that.

Trish:

Exactly.

Slade:

Like you're actively trying not to do something your body will do on it's own if you're asleep, you know what I mean?

Trish:

Yeah, totally!

Slade:

I want to shift gears a little bit and talk about your book, because that will lead us into the conversation that I really am eager to have with you.

The title of your book is "Oh honey ... i'm just getting started: Consciously Create your next Decade". Tell us what this book is about.

Trish:

Oh wow. First of all, I want to thank you so much for having me on today because I went back last night and read the preface to the book and, I was having one of those days yesterday where I felt like I wasn't as far as I wanted to be. And when I read the preface to the book, I was like, Ohmygosh, I've done a lot since I turned 50.

So thank you again for that.

Again, this started out as a blog. I was in that transition of, Who am I? What am I supposed to be? Why am I here on Earth? And I was working with a gentleman out in Santa Barbara, who's name is Jesse Brisendine and that's his website. But at that time, Jesse was doing an initiative where he was doing 1000 new things in one year.

I kind of approached him and said, 'Hey Jesse, can I kind of feed off of your idea but I'm only going to do 50, because 1000 new things was a bit overwhelming for me. So I said I'm going to do 50 new things in my 50th year.'

But what sparked that whole thought of doing that was, the night before my 50th birthday, I got a text message from my brother in Jersey and he said, 'Congratulations, you're half dead!'

Slade:

Mmm!

Trish:

And... That's how my family rolls. We've got this snark going on. But anyway, it kind of made me really stop and think, because in my previous life, 50 just sounds like, ohmygosh, maybe I AM half dead.

So I kind of went in and started quizzing people and it was surprising how many people in my circle at that time, they were ready to pick out their coffins.

Now my mom was diagnosed with Alzheimer's at 54, which is very, very young, and it was kind of when I got that text from my brother that I had such a mind shift of 'I'm not going down my mom's path'. I am going to do things in a different way. So combined with working with Jesse and seeing what he was doing was when I went, You know what, I'm going to do 50 new things in my 50th year.

And it all rolled so organically and so beautifully.

I was at a business event and I got talking to a gentleman and telling him about the blog and he said, 'Ohmygod, you've gotta write a book on this. It's going to so help other people.'

Next thing I knew, six months later I got the box and I had my book in my hand. It was an amazing feeling.

Slade:

Ohmygosh. Well I LOVE this idea and I was going to ask you about the origin. And I don't even wanna do the math for a thousand things, because that might not... I mean, that's a LOT of things per day in order to make that happen.

I'm somebody who works on a lot of routines, and so in order to introduce new things, I have to make space for that. You know what I mean?

Trish:

Right!

Slade:

I'm not a free-spirit, free-rolling, do-new-things kind of person. I like to think of myself as doing little spontaneous things. I have little bursts of spontaneity within a framework that's a little bit more structured. Does that make sense?

So I do dorky little things like, I'm going to take this ridiculously out of the way road because it goes over this mountain. I've never driven up there but... it might make me 10 minutes late to where I want to be, but that's okay.

I'll do little things like that, but I'm a pretty routine person, so when I heard you talking about this idea, of course, I am approaching 50 so I... I don't know! I have to tell you. I was just bit by this spark of 'I need to do that'.

I'm not somebody who does birthdays in a big way at all. To me, the best birthdays are kind of a quiet day and I like for my birthday to feel like just the best any-old-Wednesday I could've had. You know what I mean?

Trish:

Right!

Slade:

I get excited by little things like on my birthday, there was this wonderful rain all day long. And I love rain. And I felt like, Oh, it rained on my birthday.

And I know that, like, so many people would be like, 'You are pathetic and sad', but...

Trish:

No! You're honouring what feels good to you.

Slade:

Yeah. To me, it was like such a beautiful, simple little thing to have a rainy day and to feel like it was kind of a gift.

So you started doing the 50 new things when you turned 50. So you were executing this challenge during your 50th year between 50 and 51.

Trish:

Yes.

Slade:

I'm going to change that a little bit because, well I was inspired to do it a few weeks before I turned 49. And I just turned 49 on July 23rd. Which is like, a week ago. (Thank you to everyone who sent me those Facebook messages.)

My dad gave me this cool card and he had gone online and he had done numerology research on the number 49 because he said that he felt like personally, 49 was a really magical year for a lot of people. And he wanted to know if there was something about that, like some kind of lore about 49. And apparently he went down the numerology rabbit hole - who knew he even had it in him!

Trish:

I'm impressed!

Slade:

I know, right!

So he gives me this card, and he's written down facts and one of the things that struck me was that 49 is 7 7s, and of course, 7 is a big divine number and so he was just kind of telling me this whole concept they had about 49 being magical.

I don't want to wait for 50 to actually start, because I'm afraid by then, I might let the opportunity pass or who knows. It might be exciting to me and I stick it on the backburner and then I don't bring it forward again.

So I'm going to call this, for me, '50 new things BEFORE 50'.

Trish:

I love that. It's a great idea. I love it.

Slade:

I have to say that my 40s have been the best years of my life. I am sorry to see the decade go, so I want to finish them out in a big way. And I felt like this would be part of the way to do it. So I'm just going to jump right in.

My first few items are kind of lame. Or somebody might think they are. So I need help thinking up things to do. Do you do big bucket list things? Can it be little things? Give us some examples of things that you did, kind of big and small.

Trish:

I did not go into this with a pre-programmed list. It all rolled so organically. It ended beautifully when I realized I was at the big 5-0 on my list, it was not something... I always thought, Oh, it's gotta be something big. I have to go to Fiji with my friends and skydive.

I realized, on my last one, that I was in Las Vegas with my son and the year before, I had been too afraid to go on the big ferris wheel. It's called the Link, or the High Roller, or something like that. I had been afraid to do that, and so for my 50th one, my son goes, 'Mom, You were too afraid to go last year. This is your 50th one.'

We walked down there, and it literally stopped at 550 feet up in the air and on the screens it started flashing, 'Zen'.

Slade:

Wow...

Trish:

It was like the Universe - I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about what a beautiful moment that was. So I didn't have a pre-programmed list. It literally just presented itself. And I'm feeling that that's what's going to happen with you.

I heard you use that word, you don't like anything out of your routine, or it's lame.

This is, for you, Slade, go inside and say, I have done everything in my book from 'get a tattoo' (that's a whole other podcast) to doing something differently.

My - that overused 'aha' moment - I have a chapter on sitting in a group of women and hearing how no one listened to listen. They listened to respond. And my 'aha' moment was from that day going forward, I was going to listen to listen.

So it literally showed up on my door.

I had big things - I grew up with three brothers so I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie. My favorite 50 for 50 was going to racecar school. I always loved cars and so that was something I've always wanted to do. But more often than not, you'll find in here it's just things where I want to operate internally differently.

So each of my chapters is my story. And then I have a Call to Action for my reader to invite you to... What's a fear you've always wanted to overcome? I have another chapter on learning how to go in to a restaurant and eat by myself. I wasn't running off to Paris and having a spa week, or I don't know what else but...

Peppered in with my big things are things that other people might say were lame. So it's all perspective.

But again, I'm still feeling like this is something for you to go inside and say, Okay, today I'm going to take that different route. Or maybe I'm gonna go into the tea house I know you have in your town and try... I always order the same tea at my teahouse.

Slade:

Yes!

Trish:

So today I'm going to order a different one.

Slade:

Oh that's a good one!

Trish:

It doesn't have to be huge, so you are going to know... I'm so feeling that you are gonna know when you wake up in the morning. Or when you find yourself in the position, so I'm encouraging you to bring a journal dedicated to your 50 things with you wherever you go. Because all of a sudden you might be at the grocery store and say, 'Wow, that guy said hello to me 50 times and I've never said hello to him, but today I decided to get to know him.'

Slade:

Right. That's cool.

I already have a note in my cloud to both jot down ideas for things that maybe I can't execute at that moment. Because some of those are simple little things, but it's like, Well I can't do that right this minute, but that's a good one. I'll do it later.

The thing, as you were talking, is I realized you were blogging about it and doing a book. And I thought, Well, I already talked about this a couple of episodes ago when I set everybody up so that it would kind of hold me accountable to doing it, and that I could bring everybody along probably the same kind of way that you did with your blog. But what I'm gonna do is, I'll kind of report on it with my Intros. When I do my personal Intro.

So this year, each week I can share maybe an example of something that I've done, or whether or not I really bombed at doing anything that week or whatever. And bring people along on the journey, documenting it. Just a few moments in the podcast. And I like the idea of, like you said in your book, turning that into a call to action for everyone.

Trish:

Yes!

Slade:

There's often a way in which my Oracle messages are connected to my personal Intros. So that might be a way to do that. I don't know. It's coming to me. I can see it. It's gonna come out.

Trish:

It's coming.

I'm seeing it too so it'll be interesting to see if there's a crossover. I really am seeing you as just this well of inspiration that this is gonna spark for you.

Slade:

So I have to tell you the first thing I did because, the thing you have to realize is, 50 things, that's like basically one thing a week. So you have to start right away. You know? It's like, Crap! I'm already... I'm on my first week here.

So the first thing I did, just as an example is, now again, this is a perspective thing, like you said. To me, it was a big deal. To other people, they're gonna be like, Ugh, eyeroll.

I don't wear colour or patterns. At all. I haven't for decades. I always say that my wardrobe is a symphony of navy and gray. I love midnight blue and I love charcoal gray. I really, really honestly love gray. I love gray walls... It makes me feel happy and warm. So those are my favorite colours to wear. My wardrobe is very minimal.

So, for my birthday actually, one of the things my mom and I like to do is, rather than try to pick out a gift for the other person, we go shopping together. Because she loves to shop and I always find better stuff when I go with her. This is like a magic power that she has. You go shopping with her, you find things you never would've found on your own.

Trish:

I love that!

I need to go shopping with your mom.

Slade:

She missed her calling as a Personal Shopper.

So I decided to do this a few years ago with a friend of mine. I was like, Why don't we just make a day out of going shopping together? So we can have coffee and eat lunch, and then we go to some stores and along the way, you find something. Whatever it is. You're like, gasp this is the thing! And I buy you that for your birthday. So that's kind of the way my mother and I buy gifts for each other.

So we were going shopping and I was wanting some more shirts from this particular place I like to get them. SO, as my first act of new things, I bought a bright turquoise-coloured shirt and I wore that to my birthday dinner.

Now I have this one spot in my wardrobe. It's like a symphony of navy and gray and then the single crash of turquoise!

Trish:

That's awesome!

I was just gonna say, take a picture of that. Take pictures of what you're doing.

Slade:

Okay. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Trish:

Because it's cool for you to go, I have a photo album that I put together on things that I did, and great for me to go back and re-live it and look at it.

Slade:

Awesome. I do have pictures, just because I have birthday pictures of me in that shirt. I actually really like it, so I'm sure I'm gonna wear it again.

But that was a big deal for me! It was like a big-little deal, you know what I mean?

Trish:

Right, right.

Slade:

Those are the things I've been brainstorming around.

A couple of others that come to mind: I'm going to get a library card because I haven't had one since I was a child, but now with library cards, you can get e-books, you can get audio books, you can do all this cool stuff with library cards that I've been hearing about and I'm like, 'Dangit, I'm going to go and get a library card.'

Let's see... What else was I thinking about doing? Just to give people some ideas about where my brain is going with this stuff. I'm going to read a mystery novel. I'm a huge book nerd but I've never in my life read a mystery.

Trish:

Oh that's so cool!

Yeah, little things for other people are huge things for you. These are things that you've never done.

Slade:

That's great.

Trish:

Yeah. So it's getting away from that comparison of, you know, I was looking at Jesse with... His 1000 new things were everything from skydiving and I can't off the top of my head remember, but again, he was a lot younger than me. And had more resources. So he was able to do that.

Yeah, it really will... Let the ideas come to you. And don't stress. I had weeks where two weeks in a row, I did nothing. And on that third week, by doing one thing, I had a trip to Sedona in one of my 50 new things, and within that trip to Sedona, I tried a new restaurant, I hiked a new trail. So I was able to get three or four in one event.

Slade:

Right. Okay. Alright. You can listen along and I'll share a little bit of this as I go, and hopefully that will be entertaining for myself and others.

So one of the reasons why I wanted to talk about how I was taking your idea and running with it. I talked about something on the show and Diana Frajman turned it into a project that she did on her blog called the 3x3.

I love this idea because, here's the thing for me: I never do anything by the book. I get a burst of inspiration and then I immediately customize it, I modify it. And I think that that's a really good thing for people to do, because when you get to, in your head, about executing something the way someone else did, like you said, the whole comparison thing. We need to let go of that.

You need to look at someone and go, 'She's really cool. I want to be cool like her.' Not say, 'She's really cool. I'm so uncool by comparison.'

Trish:

Absolutely.

You and I have talked quite a bit about the singer, Pink, right?

Slade:

Yes.

Trish:

And that's a perfect example. I love her, but I'm not going to be swinging off of trapezes 100 feet in the air. But it's pulling that badass, the nuggets, from her personality and incorporating them into what things I like to do!

Yeah, I'm not sitting here going, 'Oh I'll never be a rock star. That's travelling the world...' But it's looking at her and saying, 'What coolness can I garner from her?'

Slade:

Right.

Trish:

And bring it into myself.

I'm excited to see where this goes for you!

Slade:

Yeah, it'll be fun!

And people can adapt this, right? I was thinking as I was adapting it to do it in my own little way.

I was also thinking, you know, somebody who's listening that's 25 or 30 or approaching 60, they can do it around another age that obviously gets more challenging the older that you get.

I was even thinking that you could do this as a couple, as part of a milestone anniversary. You could do it with your partner and say, 'This is our 20th anniversary, we're gonna do 20 things together this year.' You know what I mean?

Trish:

I love it!

Slade:

Yeah, you could create different versions of this. If this intrigues you, just do it now someway. The thing that I'm always scared about people doing is turning things into shelf help, which is, 'That's a really great idea! I'm going to put it on the shelf and use it some other day.'

Trish:

Right.

Slade:

It's really important to, when you feel that burst of, 'Oh that's cool - how can I do that?' Figure out a way that you can do it right away. And if that means, you know what, I just feel like doing it right now, so I'm gonna make it a thing that I do for the summer. And it's gonna be three months and I'm gonna make up my own version of that that's about the summer, or whatever.

I think that there's a lot of different concepts that you could take this inspiration and customize it.

Trish:

Absolutely.

As you were talking, I'm sitting here going, 'Okay. Today is August 1st. It's the 8th month. Do 8 new things for August.'

Slade:

Oh that's perfect. Yeah. Like that! That's a great example. You can do the same thing with any other month.

Trish:

Oh absolutely. I have a client that just turned 45, so she's doing 45 new things.

Slade:

Yeah, exactly! I love it.

So anybody who comes up with their own version of this, I want them to write and tell me about it. Or contact Trish, which would be even better. We'll be tagging each other in social media so you can jump in and leave a comment on this episode when I post about it. And share what your version is - I would love to hear!

Trish:

Oh, me too!

Slade:

What people decide to do with this.

As I said, I'm sorry to see my 40s go. Jane Fonda said that your 50s are the best years of your life, so I'm just going to anticipate that my 50s are going to be even better.

Trish:

I think she was totally right and one of my other inspirations for my book was my maternal aunt. She also passed away from cancer. But just feeling her as a spirit guide and she gave me permission, and I'm finding that when you turn 50, all bets are off and I'm stepping into who I'm supposed to be. I'm having those hard conversations with people.

It's almost like there's something that unlocks in your brain, that you all of a sudden go, 'It's ok. The things that I didn't do, it's okay to do them now.'

So same thing. My 40s rocked as well, but I think, Slade, you're gonna really find that 50s are going to take it up a notch.

Slade:

That's my intention, for sure.

So tell me. This is kind of a tough question. It's a little bit of a stumper, and if you want to ramble, you can. Everybody freaks out when I ask them this: What do you hope to contribute to the greater conversation about spirituality and personal development, all this stuff we talk about. What's your thing that you hope to offer?

Trish:

I have been doing, especially with all the eclipse and mercury retrograde and I have to say, I try not to buy in to that, but last week there was no way I couldn't. I was coming up against huge triggers and old stuff coming up and I have that moment of, Why am I here? What am I supposed to be doing?

And I think to put it in simple words, Slade, it's to leave the world a better place than I found it.

We've talked about, people are waiting for government to do things better, or their parents, or their spouse, or whatever. It starts with us. So what I want to do is really help people see that you're capable. You have the tools within you. I'm still on my journey of finding them. But if I can help others see that they are capable and to stop and get grounded, and see that and believe in themselves, then I'll be happy.

We all want to know, What's our legacy that we're leaving in life and mine is to leave the planet a better place.

Part of my 50 for 50 was paying it forward. I found an organization that I do some fundraising for, and so I paid it forward. I wanted, in my 50th year, to start doing that, and I did, so it's just... Where am I going with this?

I think, Slade, just to leave the world a better place than I found it.

Slade:

That's a great answer.

I love that question. I actually call that the Legacy question in my notes. Everybody freaks out a little. They're like, 'I rambled like crazy! I left my body during that question.'

I'm like, 'No, no..'

It does produce some really good things and I think that that simple response is actually hugely profound.

Trish:

Right, right.

Slade:

So, what's next for you? Do you have any projects on the horizon? Are you working on another book? What's next?

Trish:

I want to back up and add a little something to that last question.

Having had so many people pass away in my life, I always say that the best way to honour those that have passed is to live a life that they would be proud of. I'm going to add that on to my answer before.

What is next for me?

I have a few different things going on. I'm currently working on a book that is not coming up and out of me as fast as this one did. And it's because I haven't lived the whole thing yet. What my book is, we've got our working title of 'Always Evolving'. I'm interviewing people about when they made the choice to listen to their intuitive hits. Or they started to do life differently.

I'm calling it a Chicken-Soup-for-the-Soul format. Instead of talking all about me, this one's going to be talking about other people and kind of a guidebook of 'You're not going crazy, you're just opening up', because there are moments in my life where things have started to happen. I'm getting those intuitive downloads and I'm like, 'Am I going crazy here?'

So it would've been nice for me to have something that I could refer to and say, 'Okay, this is normal.'

There's going to be chapters on how to tell your family, how your family reacts. My family's not so supportive about things I'm doing in my life. So a lot of that.

Kind of dovetailing on that book is, I'm starting to put together a podcast which I'm hoping to get out in the fall. And interviewing people like yourself, and interviewing myself, and just getting those stories out there. That'll evolve into the next book.

I am also doing some TV work and coaching and speaking. So lots of good things coming down the path. I think it's going to be an awesome fall for everybody that's going through big stuff this summer. This summer has been such a restorative, rebuilding summer. So the fall is going to rock.

Slade:

Trish, it's been so fun picking your brain about this challenge and using your idea as inspiration for making my year special. I would've been thrilled just to have this call with you, just privately for myself, so to get to share it with everyone else makes it even better.

Tell everyone where they can go to find you online.

Trish:

My website is www.TrishWalker.us. I'm pretty active on Facebook. Again, Trish Walker is my Facebook page, and Instagram @Trish.Walker1 is my Instagram page.

Slade:

That's great, Trish. Thank you for coming on and talking to me.

Trish:

My pleasure! Thank you so much for having me! You got me re-excited about, What am I gonna do for 60??